I'm not sure why this suddenly seems so rampant, but I swear at just about every cash game I sit at since last week there's at LEAST one person who's playing 75% or more of their hands TRYING to outplay everyone. Take this guy moronremover; this was less than 10 hands after I sat down:
Full Tilt Poker Game #9154330531: Table Marcella (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:32:08 ET - 2008/11/24
Seat 3: sjmurray11 ($11.70)
Seat 5: moronremover ($11.50)
Seat 6: Dray ($10.10)
moronremover posts the small blind of $0.05
Dray posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dray [As Kd]
sjmurray11 folds
moronremover has 15 seconds left to act
moronremover raises to $0.30
Dray raises to $1
moronremover calls $0.70
*** FLOP *** [Jd Ts 2h]
moronremover checks
Dray has 15 seconds left to act
Dray bets $1.40
moronremover has 15 seconds left to act
moronremover raises to $3.75
Dray has 15 seconds left to act
Dray calls $2.35
*** TURN *** [Jd Ts 2h] [8s]
moronremover bets $3
Dray has 15 seconds left to act
Dray adds $4.65
Dray folds
Uncalled bet of $3 returned to moronremover
moronremover shows [4d Ad] Ace Jack high
moronremover wins the pot ($9)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.50 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Jd Ts 2h 8s]
Seat 3: sjmurray11 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: moronremover (small blind) collected ($9)
Seat 6: Dray (big blind) folded on the Turn
He check/raised air just the same with 92o against a different person not long after.
I spent Saturday night and Sunday frustrated by these types of players because they're playing so loose and so fast all I can think about is stacking them. I'm playing all kinds of speculative hands against them just knowing if I can flop two pair or higher I can break him. The problem is, the cards just weren't cooperating. I really can't think of a more frustrating situation to be in than to have position on a maniac and never being able to capitalize on it.
But there are two problems with my approach.
1) My ego. I've been walking a path of spiritual growth along with my wife the last two months thanks to my awesome church. I've tried to be very honest with myself about what some of my faults are, and pride is a BIG one. I mean, in this situation say some other player comes along and stacks the maniac in two hands after I've been trying for an hour: I'm pissed off! That's my EGO thinking I had some kind of claim to it the whole time when I never did. The point is I need to be more concerned about MYself and MY attitude so that situations like this don't affect my play. Church has helped me realize the best way to handle everyday issues like this is to just talk to God about it, be honest and ask for help to do better next time. There's nothing to small that isn't of concern for Him.
2) I was posting about this table situation on 2+2 and someone jolted me back into the realization you're not supposed to play speculative hands against maniacs. You're supposed to play hands that will make top pair, good kicker or better. When you both hit the same top pair they'll pay you off and then some (valuetown). As the session went past the 100 hand mark and moronremover got more chips I watched him call and bet 2nd and 3rd pair on the river over and over again.
Speculative hands are best played against tight players who are really only raising big pairs, AK, AQ suited etc. They'll have a harder time getting away from their hands when you flop big. But I think we all get tempted to constantly try and flop big and we leak money in the process. It's just not glamorous to play tight and solid. We all want to "outplay" everyone in every hand and if there's anything I took away from the Cardrunners training site is that's not what poker is about.
I made a buy-in overall in last night's session, which I'm happy about considering my other sessions this week. I got lucky against moronremover early where I tried to fight fire with fire (oops):
Full Tilt Poker Game #9154610290: Table Marcella (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:50:54 ET - 2008/11/24
Seat 1: dr800big ($11.20)
Seat 2: farmersagent07 ($5)
Seat 3: sjmurray11 ($15.25)
Seat 4: rich6300 ($3.85)
Seat 5: moronremover ($15.80)
Seat 6: Dray ($10.55)
moronremover posts the small blind of $0.05
Dray posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dray [Ac Qd]
dr800big folds
farmersagent07 folds
sjmurray11 folds
rich6300 folds
moronremover raises to $2.70
Dray has 15 seconds left to act
Dray raises to $10.55, and is all in
moronremover calls $7.85
Dray shows [Ac Qd]
moronremover shows [Kh Kd]
*** FLOP *** [As 3h 3d]
*** TURN *** [As 3h 3d] [8c]
*** RIVER *** [As 3h 3d 8c] [Qs]
Dray shows two pair, Aces and Queens
moronremover shows two pair, Kings and Threes
Dray wins the pot ($19.10) with two pair, Aces and Queens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21.10 | Rake $2
Board: [As 3h 3d 8c Qs]
Seat 1: dr800big didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: farmersagent07 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: sjmurray11 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: rich6300 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: moronremover (small blind) showed [Kh Kd] and lost with two pair, Kings and Threes
Seat 6: Dray (big blind) showed [Ac Qd] and won ($19.10) with two pair, Aces and Queens
I fell for that one hook, line and sinker. Purely a product of my ego and just not thinking about it long enough. Hindsight obviously fold and wait for a better spot.
Then two hands I felt I played well. The first one gave me a nice tilting image to make for an easy payday on my 2nd. Murray was pretty loose playing 40% of his hands, not as loose as moronremover, but still. :)
Full Tilt Poker Game #9155044888: Table Marcella (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:21:11 ET - 2008/11/25
Seat 1: dr800big ($10.40), is sitting out
Seat 2: Precious_hwi ($9.35)
Seat 3: sjmurray11 ($14.60)
Seat 4: rich6300 ($0), is sitting out
Seat 5: moronremover ($11.80)
Seat 6: Dray ($21.85)
moronremover posts the small blind of $0.05
Dray posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dray [Td Ad]
Precious_hwi folds
sjmurray11 calls $0.10
moronremover folds
rich6300 adds $4
Dray has 15 seconds left to act
Dray raises to $0.30
rich6300 has returned
sjmurray11 calls $0.20
*** FLOP *** [8s Ac Jc]
Dray bets $0.50
sjmurray11 calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [8s Ac Jc] [Qd]
Dray checks
sjmurray11 bets $1
Dray calls $1
*** RIVER *** [8s Ac Jc Qd] [2h]
Dray has 15 seconds left to act
Dray bets $1.50
sjmurray11 calls $1.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dray shows [Td Ad] a pair of Aces
sjmurray11 shows [As 2c] two pair, Aces and Twos
sjmurray11 wins the pot ($6) with two pair, Aces and Twos
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6.65 | Rake $0.65
Board: [8s Ac Jc Qd 2h]
Seat 1: dr800big is sitting out
Seat 2: Precious_hwi didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: sjmurray11 showed [As 2c] and won ($6) with two pair, Aces and Twos
Seat 4: rich6300 (button) is sitting out
Seat 5: moronremover (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Dray (big blind) showed [Td Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces
Full Tilt Poker Game #9155069670: Table Marcella (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:22:58 ET - 2008/11/25
Seat 2: Precious_hwi ($10)
Seat 3: sjmurray11 ($17.30)
Seat 4: rich6300 ($4)
Seat 5: moronremover ($12.10)
Seat 6: Dray ($18.25)
Precious_hwi posts the small blind of $0.05
sjmurray11 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dray [Qc 9d]
rich6300 folds
moronremover has 15 seconds left to act
moronremover folds
Precious_hwi adds $0.05
Dray calls $0.10
Precious_hwi folds
GrapeVineZZZ sits down
sjmurray11 checks
*** FLOP *** [8h Tc Jd]
GrapeVineZZZ adds $10
sjmurray11 bets $0.50
Dray has 15 seconds left to act
Dray raises to $1
sjmurray11 calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [8h Tc Jd] [6s]
sjmurray11 bets $3
Dray has 15 seconds left to act
Dray calls $3
*** RIVER *** [8h Tc Jd 6s] [2d]
sjmurray11 bets $3
Dray has 15 seconds left to act
Dray raises to $14.15, and is all in
sjmurray11 calls $10.20, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $0.95 returned to Dray
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dray shows [Qc 9d] a straight, Queen high
sjmurray11 mucks
Dray wins the pot ($33.65) with a straight, Queen high
sjmurray11 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $34.65 | Rake $1
Board: [8h Tc Jd 6s 2d]
Seat 2: Precious_hwi (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: sjmurray11 (big blind) mucked [6c Js] - two pair, Jacks and Sixes
Seat 4: rich6300 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: moronremover didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Dray (button) showed [Qc 9d] and won ($33.65) with a straight, Queen high
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